Saturday, July 30, 2005

part 8 (seeing jesus through a porn star )

this post is part of a series which started here.

i've been sitting on my sofa, starting this post over and over. i stare at the words, and then i select all, and delete.
i write, in between the pauses, and through my blurry vision, through the deep sobbing.
it's been hard.
writing about 'marie' has not been easy. it's been deeply emotional. i was afraid of writing this story.
but instead through writing this story i have expierenced an immense peace while writing. and in the end understood more about jesus, than i ever had before.

and at the time i had desperately wanted the story to end, in this way:

"and then marie prayed the sinners prayer, and she stopped every thing she was doing, and became a missionary who now helps young girls."

that is what i wanted.

but instead, perhaps the beauty of god is not only found in the neatly packaged salvation stories. perhaps the beauty of god, is instead found in the depth and ugliness of our lives.
god is found in the sadness, the messy parts, the depression the anger, and the hurt.

and in the mess that was marie's life....
seeing jesus in her was not hard.
she was loving, caring, and honest.
she would have done anything for me.
and the truth is that before i was a christian i would have done anything for her.

i became saved, i started to go to church
i should have been the one that was like christ.
no longer was i close to her, i backed away from her instead,
no longer did i cry with her, i prayed for her salvation instead,
no longer did i spend hours talking to her, i talked about her to my bible study instead.
no longer did i write long thought out e-mails to her, i put her on prayer chain instead.
no longer did i trust her with things about my life, i deemed her of the world instead and unworthy of knowing my deepest thoughts because how could a crack addict understand my love of god?

i was more christ like when i was not going to church,
and when i wasn't a christian.
i didn't judge people then,
i didn't categorize everyone else as a sinner, and then pray for them, while slowly backing away.
when we were in college, i saw marie as my equal, and as my friend i didn't see any difference between her and i. and when i started the church thing i changed.
i could not be in the world, that's what they told me over and over.

she was going to drag me into the world, she was going to tempt me. that's what the church told me, and that's what i believed.
but in all my years of college, in all my years of being in a close friendship with her, i never became part of the world the church feared.
i was a part of her world, wrapped in love, acceptance, and loyalty.

"you can love her, but you can't be in her life" that's what the pastors said, that's what the people in the bible studies said.

during college i loved marie, unconditionally, i loved her because she was a beautiful person, who was my friend.
after i became a member of the salvation club, i loved the sinner, but hated the sin, and that just meant that i was not a good friend to her.
that simply meant, i backed away, and i became less and less christ like, the more and more i prayed, went to church, read the bible, and lead a bible study.
the less christ like i became.

and it was intoxicating, the attention, the questions of what i was telling her, how i was going to witness, and what a great story it would make. it was my drug, and i got my high every sunday.
i wanted to save her, i wanted the story, i wanted that notch in my belt.
i was a horrible friend to her.

when she died, i was so angry, because god had not given me the chance to really witness, that's the way i thought god worked.
and after her death, the church told me:
"all you had to do was plant the seeds"
"she knew the truth because of you"
"you showed her god's love"

but i never did. i never loved her the way christ would have, i never simply listened and loved her, with out hoping to get something from her.
telling her about god, and the love of god was not because of how much i loved marie, it was not because i desperately wanted her to experience the presence of god.
i wanted her salvation, for my peace,
i wanted it for me.

in the end, this girl,
the porn star,
the crack addict
the alcoholic
the h.i.v. patient
the slut
the druggie
the one who sold herself
the one that the church told me to stay away from...

this porn star... showed me the beauty and presence of god, more than i had ever known. as i stood playing on holy ground. i was transformed.
i was playing for marie in that moment, because i loved her.
in that moment, she was god's child.
she was god's to love, to cherish, and to behold.
and as i stood i knew that she was always god's child.
she was being watched over, she was loved and cared for,and treasured,
she was the sparrow
she was the woman at the well
she was the leper
she was the blind person
she was the cripple
she was the person beaten and left to die on a road from jerusalem to jericho.
she was the woman who was nearly stoned

and i was the pharisee.

i begged god in those moments, to become less like the church, less like the christian i thought i should be, and more like christ.

lord,
for all the times that i have turned my face
for all of the times that i have judged
for all of the times that i cast the first stone
have mercy on me
lord,
for all of the times i have looked down upon another
for all the times i have not stopped to help
for all of the times i stayed away from the world
have mercy on me.
lord,
for all of the times i wanted to be a better christian
for all the times i wanted the recognition
for all of the times i needed the validation of my faith
have mercy on me.
lord,
for all i have done against those you love,
for all i have done against the least of these
for all i have done against those who are most like you,
have mercy on me.

amen.

92 comments:

Lori said...

Natala, this has deeply touched me. Thank you so much, I know how hard it must have been, I am crying along side of you.
I prayed tonight the prayer you wrote, Lord have mercy on me.

susie said...

tears...humbled and wonder-filled,
convicted and yet deeply encouraged...
i too, echo your prayer...Lord have mercy on me...

Jennifer said...

Maybe you were more Christ like when you were not a Christian, because Christ was never a Christian.
This has been truly inspiring to read, and I was not expecting it to end like this. I want to be more like Christ, the one who helped the leper, the blind man, the woman at the well, the prostitute, that's the Christian I want to be.
Thank you.

Mark said...

"after i became a member of the salvation club, i loved the sinner, but hated the sin, and that just meant that i was not a good friend to her."

Lord have mercy on me, for I have done the same, over and over again.

I want to thank you for writing this, I could never tell you what reading it has done for me, except that it has changed me.

Songbird said...

Thank you for telling this story. Even when we are relating to others in less charged or dramatic circumstances than Marie's, it's easy for "churched" Christians to feel separate from the world and to forget how and who Jesus loved. Your reminder of what may be the result is a gift to all who read it.

B1 said...

Natala, thank you for writing this. It's beautiful.

Steve F. said...

Oh, my God.

Talk about "killing me softly with her song..."

Natala, I can't tell you how much what you wrote hit me. I hope you won't mind my linking to it.

Your courage - and your rigorous honesty - are an incredible gift to us all.

There are several people with whom I've had similar encounters - and God knows, I wish I could get them to read what you've written. I wish I could get every person in every pew to read what you've written. Because it's a story that so many of us have lived - I know *I* sure have.

God bless you for the courage to pour this out for us to see, and from which to learn.

Lord, have mercy on me...

Anonymous said...

I am a Pastor. I have struggled with pornography for many years, and no one knows, nor does my wife.
I warn the youth about people like Marie, every week.
I read through all of these stories, and I am so disgusted with myself. Not only am I one of the Pastor's who would have told you to stay away from Marie, I am one of the Pastor's that Marie talked about, maybe not to her directly, but many other women. On Sunday's and when I put the Pastor hat on, I judge, and condemn, others, who are far better than I am. (people just like Marie
)
I have judged the "Woman at the Well", while being one of the many men who lusted after her.
I hope that this was not too much to write. I have nothing more to say, please pray for me.

Sarah said...

Lord have mercy on me.
Lord have mercy on the Church.
Lord have mercy on all of us.

Karen said...

I cried as I read this. Thank you so much for reminding me of the difference between being a Christian and being like Christ.

Lord have mercy on me for my own hardness of heart.

Sue said...

Thank you and bless you Natala. You are an inspiration. I know you have struggled to put these words down and re-enter this painful time, but please know that your sharing has been a deep blessing.

peace...

Allison said...

Natala, I read this via Steve's link, and so glad he shared you with me.

I'm not sure what else to say other than (through my tears) I'm touched.

Roman said...

Natala, this was beautiful, and so divinely inspired that I felt as if it was coming from my blood as well. The driven force I feel when I write I could feel as I read your story of "marie". And it is so honest. This should be given to churches everywhere to read.

Anonymous Pastor...When I write, I am in prayer, so I will write and pray for you.

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Mumcat said...

Thank you for telling the story, Natala. It's a sad one but there's a really powerful message here.

No, it's not "make sure you have all the right Bible verses ready for any situation." The thing is, Bible verses are a way to keep from really interacting with someone who is hurt and in need. Jesus didn't recite Bible verses to those he healed --- and even he changed his mind about who was worthy of being healed and who wasn't.

It's hard to say "lead with your heart, not with your Bible" but I'm saying it. Tend to the illness and *THEN* worry about converting them. But most of all, remember that it isn't how many times you say the name of Jesus to someone it's how many times you show them what Jesus is like.

Bless you on your journey, Natala. May it be a God-filled one as I suspect it will be. And may Marie rest in peace and rise in glory. God is a God of miracles -- and I fully believe Marie is experiencing her second one right now. Her first one was having you to love her and earn her trust.

Mumcat said...

Thank you for telling the story, Natala. It's a sad one but there's a really powerful message here.

No, it's not "make sure you have all the right Bible verses ready for any situation." The thing is, Bible verses are a way to keep from really interacting with someone who is hurt and in need. Jesus didn't recite Bible verses to those he healed --- and even he changed his mind about who was worthy of being healed and who wasn't.

It's hard to say "lead with your heart, not with your Bible" but I'm saying it. Tend to the illness and *THEN* worry about converting them. But most of all, remember that it isn't how many times you say the name of Jesus to someone it's how many times you show them what Jesus is like.

Bless you on your journey, Natala. May it be a God-filled one as I suspect it will be. And may Marie rest in peace and rise in glory. God is a God of miracles -- and I fully believe Marie is experiencing her second one right now. Her first one was having you to love her and earn her trust.

Mumcat said...

Thank you for telling the story, Natala. It's a sad one but there's a really powerful message here.

No, it's not "make sure you have all the right Bible verses ready for any situation." The thing is, Bible verses are a way to keep from really interacting with someone who is hurt and in need. Jesus didn't recite Bible verses to those he healed --- and even he changed his mind about who was worthy of being healed and who wasn't.

It's hard to say "lead with your heart, not with your Bible" but I'm saying it. Tend to the illness and *THEN* worry about converting them. But most of all, remember that it isn't how many times you say the name of Jesus to someone it's how many times you show them what Jesus is like.

Bless you on your journey, Natala. May it be a God-filled one as I suspect it will be. And may Marie rest in peace and rise in glory. God is a God of miracles -- and I fully believe Marie is experiencing her second one right now. Her first one was having you to love her and earn her trust.

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Susan Rose, CSJP said...

Thank you and bless you for this.

I had a "Marie" in my own life - my best friend growing up. Our lives diverged at a critical point. I found my way on a path to a whole and fulfilling life. She found her way there too, eventually, but through much pain and sorrow. I was not there for her like I should have been. We can't go back and change anything. But we can hold them in our hearts. We can resolve to be present to those in our lives now.

I pray for all the "Marie's" out there. And perhaps most especially for the people who cross their paths. That they may be present in love.

Peace

Kristine said...

Thanks for your story. As I read it I immediately thought of a friend that I have who makes me think of Marie. I too have been told by well intended christians that I should love her from a distance and I have seen the fearful looks on people's faces when the see the people my husband and I associate with.
I could relate to your story in a very personal way. Thank you for being so vulnerable. It has encouraged me as I am just beginning my blog.
I think we just may have a few things in common...

bobbie said...

there are no words - moving, humbling and awestruck - thank you!

Hope said...

Having spent the last 7 days at the bedside of a dying friend I had a lot of time to think about what is important when push comes to shove. You have put into words what counts. Thank you.

wilsonian said...

I arrived here via Steve too... and can I say that you are more beautiful, more courageous than I could ever imagine being.

The sad/redemptive truth is... there are a million more Marie's. We just need to open our eyes and our hearts...

Blessings to you-

bp said...

Hooking runs in my family. I found your blog, specifically this story by accident. I don't really know how i got here.

if you had an e-mail that i could find, i would send this to you that way, but i couldn't find it, so here:
http://takeyourpeace.blogharbor.com/blog

try to ignore all the other rambling posts, and look for "God Has A Plan".

Much love from a stranger,

Digger said...

Wow, so so much of that post resonates with so much of my experience. Thankyou for posting this.

Natala said...

thank you all so much for your words, this has all caused me to pause, and reflect, and sob, and know more of christ....
much peace and love to all of you -

Karyn said...

Natala, there is no way to express the deep emotions that over took me as I read your words. Marie is and was always God's, as are you. I thank Him for that, and for all the circumstances, even the truly horrific, that have led me to your site tonight.
Love to you.
Karyn

~m2~ said...

i am so very touched. thank you for sharing this amazing story.

peace.

Gayla said...

An incredible, amazing, grace-filled story. Thank you for sharing; it touched my heart profoundly.

Pastor Anonymous - I am praying for you. May you find your courage and strength in the One who has called you to Himself.

Philothea Rose said...

I a so moved by your story. I don't have all the words right now. God Bless you.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Pastor, you are not alone. I've done much worse, I still do. My congregation does not know, my wife does not know. I am at a loss.
Natala, your bravery to write this has brought me to my knees to beg mercy upon the Lord.
Lord have mercy on me.
Lord have mercy on me.
Thank you.
Please pray for me.

Gayla said...

I can't help but be so disturbed and deeply saddened by Anonymous Pastors I and II.

Not that they're involved in the sin itself so much as they seem as though they have nowhere to turn for healing and restoration.

I don't want to venture to far away from the subject of the original post, but I so pray that the Anonymous Pastors find a safe place to confess and find healing. What is kept in darkness will eat you alive. I know, I've been there.

No, I'm not a pastor, but I'm a broken human being just like you.

This just breaks my heart...

Crystal said...

Thank you so much for sharing this incredible testimony with all of us.

Anonymous said...

Thank you...

Lauren said...

I am printing out this story to give to my college Bible study... Thank you for sharing this incredible testimony!

Julie D. said...

Thank you for being honest and open and sharing this beautiful story of love.

Gayla said...

Should Pastors I and II come back in here, please visit my blog, where I hope you'll find encouragement.

susiealbertmiller said...

to the pastors who are courageous enough to say that they struggle...
you are not alone, the struggle with pornography is pervasive and growing. We live in an eroticized world and we have very little in place in the christian world for dealing well with the issues of lust, arousal and desire, which are three different things....
on a short note, pick up the book "Out of Shadows," by Patrick Carnes, and his book "Don't Call It Love" is excellent as well.
and find a good therapist who is well trained to deal with hidden sexual issue, even if it is a secular counselor.

natala, guess i will post on living with and dealing with these sexual issues...

dan said...

Natala, thanks for writing this series, it has been incredible challenging, inspiring and heart-rending.

Natala said...

the response here has been so amazing, and to know that there are those who want to live as jesus did.... it's caused me to just stop, and think of the what's next, in loving people as christ did.
thanks to all of you as well...

joyce said...

natala---words cannot express how much marie's story has touched me. YOUR words, YOUR insight, YOUR prayer, HIS grace, HIS mercy, HIS forgiveness...i am thankful for them all.

tom cottar said...

Natala,

.........wow. I'm speechless. ....

reading this has brought back so many memories of Dave ( a very similar college story). I think I need to digest this a little bit. Thank you so much for this post. While reading, I've cried tears for you, for marie, and for myself...

God have mercy on us all.

I'm not sure we can 'love the sinner and hate the sin'...maybe I need to just 'love the sinner' and let it end there...

Thank you, again, Natala. May God continue to reveal himself to you in powerful ways.

princess granola said...

i'm with you tom. love the sinner.

thank you natala. i've been reading your blog for a long time now and i'm no longer sure how i got here, but i am glad i was here today to read this post.

i hate that i am a pharisee.

ANGEL ANTHONY said...

Dear Pastors I & II,
It's not enough to say: "Lord have mercy on me" or "Lord forgive me."
In truth I tell you, "Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." (Matthew 7:21).

Saying, "Lord, Lord" is not the solution, because you will see how you will be tempted again and again, and you will fall again and again.

The best solution is to confess your sins to someone you trust.

I am not saying confess your sins to your congregation. This is not wise at all.
Do not confess your sins to your wife, that may hurt her.

Find a person you trust and confess your temptations. You will see how your enemies (pornography) will be reduced to nothing.

The devil wants us to fight alone, so that we may lose.
Jesus wants us to let God fight for us, but we need the help of other Christians:
"Confess your sins to one another" (James 5:16)

May God give us courage and humility to confess our sins.

Angel Anthony
http://goodnewsformatt.blogspot.com

Holly said...

Natala,
I saw the comments from the Pastors, and some of the follow up comments, at first I thought "How terrible!" I can't believe they do that! And then I thought, I am just as bad, if not 100 times worse, the people I lead (Bible Study) do not know the things that I do, perhaps Paul said it best when he said "I am the Chief of ALL sinners". I guess the truth is that with Marie, with the pastors, with everyone who has left a comment, and with ME, we are all sinners, we all have fallen short, we all have the thigns we don't want to tell anyone.
This story has deeply touched me, I am going to use it for the next few weeks in my Bible Study that I am doing, if you don't mind.
Thank you for writing this, and being so humble, and writing what I never wanted to admit for myself.
Holly

Anonymous said...

This was deeply touching and Amazing.

God Bless you for being bold enough to write this. I could have never done the same.

John M. said...

I've been so tempted to think of myself as better than everyone. I did even while I read this, and while read the comments.

I am slowly realizing the truth. Thank you Natala.

Pastor Dan said...

I have been in the ministry for several years. I am blessed to have a fairly large congregation, of people who truly want to be like Christ!
This is the most powerful thing I have read in a long time.

If you do not mind, I would like to share parts of this story with my Church.

Thank you, if you are ever in the great state of Washington, I would be honored to have you speak to our Church!

To the Pastors, so many of us have been there, may you be wrapped in the love of our Lord and Savior, and may healing and restoration begin. The books that Susie suggested are a wonderful starting point, I have read them, and they were very helpful.

Stephen said...

Thank you for sharing this wonderful treasure. Sometimes we all find God in the most unexpected of places. I think that is where Jesus stays the most, with those on the outside. I pray those of us on the inside find a way to wander outside so that we too may find God.

Hammertime said...

Thank you, so much, for sharing this with us.

Sylvia said...

You put your finger right on it: "Do not judge." Praying for "sinners" means we have already committed the sin of judgement. I don't think we are supposed to be spiritual social workers, rescuing those who are not as good/happy/virtuous/successful/enlightened as we think we are. We just need to be good neighbours, both giving and receiving neighbourliness. Like you said, Marie had a lot to offer. She wasn't a charity case, she was a human being.

bender said...

This is a sad and troubling story. And, as a Catholic, who some erroneously believe to be not truly Christian, this is an interesting glimpse into the experiences and mindset of non-Catholics. However, I must confess that, as with many things Protestant, I was fairly confused with and do not understand the views of Natala and her “pastors,” as it appears that she was and is herself confused.
-–”the truth is that before i was a christian i would have done anything for her. i became saved, i started to go to church. i should have been the one that was like christ. no longer was i close to her, i backed away from her instead, no longer did i cry with her, i prayed for her salvation instead . . . i was more christ like when i was not going to church, and when i wasn’t a christian. . . . after i became a member of the salvation club, i loved the sinner, but hated the sin, and that just meant that i was not a good friend to her. that simply meant, i backed away, and i became less and less christ like, the more and more i prayed, went to church, read the bible, and lead a bible study. the less christ like i became.”
–-I’ve tried, but I guess I’ll never understand how one can be “saved,” as if it is a one-time act to gain entry into the “salvation club,” rather than salvation in Christ being a continuing and often difficult process that frequently does not involve ecstatic happiness, but involves instead difficulty and suffering — which is why we need Him so.
–-On the one hand, it is true that “Marie” was the leper, blind person, and cripple — and there are all too many like her in the world, people who engage in horribly self-destructive lives originating in awful and unconscionable abuse beginning in childhood and throughout her life, and the end of her story was probably not unexpected, yet some portion of her recognized the hell she was in, and that her own conduct contributed to that hell, and still she chose to remain there when a hand was extended to her. As impaired as it was by trauma, still she retained some measure of free will. Sadly, there are people in the world who commit slow-motion suicide by self-destructive lifestyles.
-–Although I know that Marie and those like her can be and often are, and hopefully in this case, are redeemed by Christ, still the challenge for us is to recognize when those around us are in the same type of living hell and work to get them out of it. It does take action, and a change in the worldly-life, but praying for her salvation is pretty important too, notwithstanding Natala’s frustrations. It still is.
–-Reading the entire story, and all the comments at the very end, I was struck that, although there were many comments thanking Natala and many saying “Lord have mercy on me,” I did not see a single comment about praying for “Marie,” whatever her true name may be.
–-And I suppose this is another area where I find the Protestant approach so foreign. Instead of praying for each other (or rather, in addition to praying for each other), perhaps we need to direct some of those prayers on behalf of Marie and pray that, even now, God take her into his loving arms, to experience a love and happiness that she never experienced here on earth. Perhaps we need to participate ourselves in the redemption of Christ’s crucifixion, helping to carry the cross and offering up some our own sufferings and hardships toward her merits. To be sure, few people ever did anything good for her when she was here, so maybe we can do some good for her now. Let us pray that God take and hold her in his loving arms.
-–And perhaps some good can come out of Marie’s sufferings, in that it compels us and encourages us to turn away from our own near-sighted selfishness and self-centeredness, and to look to other people in our lives who are mired in their own living hell and find some way, with the Holy Spirit, to show them a better life.

ANGEL ANTHONY said...

Wow Bender. Are you a doctor in the Church?
Wow.
Unbelievable.

Lisa said...

Natala,

This is truly amazing. Thanks for writing it, and sharing this part of your story!

I am a bit confused with some of the theology talk, I don't know if that is what was intended to come out of this post. I am just thankful that you wrote it, and that you were honest, and I don't think much more needs to be said.

What I got out of it is simply, we need to be more like Christ.
That's simple enough!

Keep discovering your faith!

Blessings on you,

Lisa

grey said...

I get the idea from reading some of these comments that some of the commenters might not have understood that natala was writing outside the context of catholicism.

I'm sure theologians from all parts of christiondom could use a post like this as grounds for debate. Maybe she could have done such and such or suggested such and such. But doing that would do much to miss the point. There are truly powerful lessons to be learned through Marie's life and natala's attitude towards it.

thanks, natala, for taking the time to help us all on our journey.

Jes said...

I am praying for "Marie".

I also want to thank you for writing this, it is refreshing to read something so humbling.

I think a majority of things written, are about how everyone else should be like the author.

Glad I found you.

I looked for an e-mail for you, but couldn't find one, would you mind sending it to me?

Thanks!
Jes

Teresa said...

WOW! That was very powerful--something that I am passionate about sharing with everyone that I can is wrapped up in that story. I will provide a link to it--like you need anymore comments. Thank YOU!

Garm said...

Thank you

Jim said...

Natala,

This story has begun changes in me. Not only on a personal level, but in regards to the way I am currently executing my ministry.

Please keep writing, no matter where you are in your faith.

Jim

XGirl said...

DAMN. I'm not even a christian, and you got me crying.

I think you are the first Christian, who might get it.

Have you watched Saved?

Roman said...

XGirl,

Tala isn't the only one. Check out Culture Driven Life and Begin With Grey. Or even mine if you'd like.

Trust me, we've all seen Saved. And even before then we were tired of that kind of church. We were so glad that a movie came along that actually spoke it for us as we tried to do this blog thing...which, judging at the ammount of comments my dear sister as aquired, I think it's working.

Dave said...

Thank you, Natala. (I found this story linked from Susie's blog.)

I've been really wrestling lately with what living a grace-filled life means. So this really resonated with me. Lots to think about.

Peace and grace to you.

Melissa said...

Can I ask what religion you are? This is really amazing!
Thank you for sharing the way you see Jesus.
I was just curios as to what kind of Church you go to.

Thanks again!

Felicia J. said...

Whatever Church that you go to that helped you to realize that you were a Pharasee, I want to know about!

Seriously, every pastor needs to read this.

Thank God for you, and people who are humble.

curious servant said...

Thank you so much.

graham old said...

Thank you.

Kenny said...

I don't care what religion you are. This is powerful, and should be applied for everyone.

This is how we should be treating one another.
With all of the crap in this world, befriending the people who society rejects is what we should be doing.

Society rejected Marie, just as much as the Church did. Society is just as much to blame.

Where were the social workers? And the teachers? And the neighbors when she was growing up?

What about the cops that tood advantage of her?

I think this goes well beyond the Church. Maybe the Church should be the example, but who are we kidding, when has the Church EVER been a good example.

This is a society issue as well, we need to raise our voices.

Thank you for writing this. It is powerful.

Kenny

Roman said...

I hink Kenny is very right, this is something that not just the church should be wary of. It is all of society, and the Church has never made a great example of helping people like Marie. Which is sad becuase the Church claims that that is what they are there for, to help. Only when they say "help" they mean "save", and then they push people like Marie away. If the Church is going to hold to higher standards, than they should also be made accountable to do so.

hazelorbs said...

my heart is crying and my soul is aching...i have been on both sides of the story. i have been the judging, condeming, goody-two-shoes Christian and now...i'm the outcast, the forbidden, the unloved and unwanted. i feel the pain...yours and marie's. but i also feel the realness...the grace...the gift of love. thank you for sharing your spirit.

Saemon said...

Thanks Natala, for your honesty.

I felt like I was receiving a confession that has also convicted me.

What an amazing way to see Jesus - the life of Marie - the 'other' which most of us would have forgotten about.

Natala - I am in 'formation' for Ministry, and your story has spoken to me about what it really means to follow Jesus - not to be a Christian.

Thanks so much

Robb Heaton said...

Thank you

Jeff said...

Allow me to add my thanks.

Michelle said...

There's so much going on in my head after reading your story that I can't get the words out. But thank you, thank you, thank you! for sharing it.

John said...

I don't know if I can add anything. I did want to tell you that this really impacted me, in ways I could never explain.

Thank you for writing, and for wearing the "Pharasee" sign.
What if we all just realized that is what we have become?

Thank you again.

Alicia said...

Hi Natala!

What an amazing series of posts. I have been reading them for the past hour or so!

I am sure you have been asked this, but I am curious what Church you go to now? And if you have found people that are more "Christ Like" and less "Christian like".

Thanks!
Have a nice day!
Alicia

Candace said...

What an incredible series of posts. What a sad story; my heart bleeds both for Marie and for you Natala.

This is a story that resonates with everyone, Christian or not. Being a friend does not require religion, it requires giving of oneself.

Don't beat yourself up, Natala, you were a young college girl. You gave Marie something she'd never had before. That your own needs got in the way is not your fault, it is just life.

Take your lessons and apply them, knowing that you are honoring Marie's memory every time you choose to love rather than judge.

-tg2 said...

Natala, you are an inspiration to all of us trying to do the Lords work. You have opened my eyes to just how wretched I am.

As someone else posted -- Love the sinner and let it end there.

Lord have mercy on us all.

Anonymous said...

Part 7 was especially moving. Thanks for your honesty.

Natala said...

i just wanted to say thank you for all of your words, i have thought greatly on the things you have said.
much peace to you...

DazzlinDino said...

Without a doubt the most powerful statement I have read on the web yet, the warmest, most heartwrenching post. My heart now goes out to you and know that others feel your pain and wish you all the best......

DazzlinDino said...

Without a doubt the most powerful statement I have read on the web yet, the warmest, most heartwrenching post. My heart now goes out to you and know that others feel your pain and wish you all the best......

DazzlinDino said...

Without a doubt the most powerful statement I have read on the web yet, the warmest, most heartwrenching post. My heart now goes out to you and know that others feel your pain and wish you all the best......

Lisa said...

Natala, I am not a Christian, though some say I act like one. Being "in the clique", you forget what it's like to be "in the field." Jesus did what he did because he loved people. The church assumes that you are not as strong as Jesus and you will fall for temptation. Only the elite group you are involved with, the "choir", can help. It's not other humans that help, but god (or Gods, in my case) that help guide you. Keep your faith strong. WW

Jennifer said...

Natala, I am so stunned. Thank you for writing this.

Joel said...

I'm not a christian either. And this got to me.
Thanks for writing it, and for being honest, you are not like the others.

Anonymous said...

For ten minutes I've sat here and have no idea how to share the hundreds of thoughts I wish I could share with you.

Instead I will simply say thank you, and hope that sometime we might be able to chat.

Kenny
kc@spoonfork.net

The Merry Rose said...

Natala, thank you. i keep having this verse and song go through my head - "Be still and know".
It is all about Jesus, not Christians.
Once again thank you for making me think again about how I live my actions and life affect the lepers.

John said...

This story has been at the forefront of my thoughts for three days now. Thank you, I needed to read this.

jimmy said...

beautiful Natala.

I'm linking.


grace and peace, jimmy

Samone said...

Natala, the part of your story that really touched me was Marie's mother's behavior. I have felt called to pray for mothers for some time now. I have a beautiful soon-to-be 18-year-old daughter. Our recent past has been terribly difficult in that I took my daughter and left a 30-1/2 year marriage after finding out information that lead me to realize that my daughter was in danger if we stayed. She and I have always been blessed with a beautiful and close relationship which has grown tremendously over the past 2 years of our singledom. She has brought many friends into our little home. To know my daughter you must understand that she is just naturally drawn to the "underdog" or the kids that no one else will hang out with. We have had quite a parade through our home. Each girl has her own story, and most of them had the sad story of no relationship with their mothers. They just broke my heart. These girls were so desperate for a mother's love that they would take it where ever they could find it. I became their "surrogate" mom. Marie's mom sounded so much like the mothers of these precious young women. My prayer is for mothers to return to God and take up their responsibilities to their children and families, to become the prayer warrior for her family as God intended. So many of the world's woes today could be eliminated if more mothers prayed for their families---without ceasing.

c & c said...

thank-you maria

Jessica R. , From Madison, Wisconsin said...

Natala,

I just read the entire series. At first I did not know what to think. But then I thought that I am no better than "Marie" non of us are.

We have all rejected God over and over and over. We are all sinners. We are all evil. And maybe Marie did die knowing Christ, I guess we won't know until we get to Heaven. Where God is judge, not us.

Very Challenging.
Thanks.